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Anime isn’t a subculture anymore; it’s the culture. We kick things off with the JJK wave—why Maki’s clan arc lands harder animated, how the culling game bends the tournament template, and what it means when parents, students, and “old heads” all speak the same anime language. From there, we zoom out to studios and platforms: MAPPA’s Netflix play, the rise of “sleeper” hits like Castlevania and Devilman Crybaby, and how streaming has turned edgy art and darker stories into mainstream draws.

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SPEAKER_00:

Bro, it's that time, life and times episode two anime. Me and my co-host, Carlos, the first guest, now the biggest host. What's up, big dog?

SPEAKER_03:

How's your cursed energy, bro?

SPEAKER_01:

Bro, cursed energy, bro. My domain expansion is at an all-time high, man. I'm spamming it. Spamming it. Six Eyes, Infinity, all that, bro. And shadows, everything, bro.

SPEAKER_00:

Telling you, trapping, rapping, making it happen, bro. Making it happen, Captain. Right out of the heavenly restrictions, alright? No heavily. No heavily to get removed. Bro, you get heavenly packed has to get removed. Bro, we get that heavily packed soon as we're born. You're born black, you get heavily packed.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm telling you, and once you turn 18, it's like, okay, like, we gotta remove the restriction.

SPEAKER_00:

No more restriction now. But no, bro, talking about JJK, it is cultural now. Like, people like are talking about anime that I've never seen talk about anime before. I'm talking moms, I'm talking dads, I'm talking old heads, I'm talking young people. There's no like disconnect culturally amongst anybody now. How did you feel about the last two episodes of JJK? As far as the episode with Maki, you know, you know, doing the Itachi route with her whole clan.

SPEAKER_01:

Whew, man, there's so much to unpack with JK. One, I think I really like how they're still using the same kind of shonen template, but they kind of they remixed it a little bit, especially with the whole culling game, man, because it's not your traditional tournament. You know what I mean? No. There's so many rules. Like, it's kind of like an end. It's like 100 exams.

SPEAKER_00:

Mix with fucking DBZ. Like imagine Cell made everybody train very specifically just to fight them. Right? And that's like fucking Takuda does.

SPEAKER_01:

You also have to think about is like, oh, the people aren't even that are just forced to be jujitsu sorcerers. That had nothing to do with this in the beginning. And it's like, okay, wow. Yeah, it's like, it's like, welcome to our world. You know what I mean? But oh man, the cultural shift I think is immense because it's it's like, mind you, like I work in ghoul, and nowadays kids are coming to my office. They're like, yo, Mr. Carlos, Mr. Jeremy, like, you watching that JJK, you watching that JJK? And I'm like, and I got that old head now. Like, I'm like the unknown that it's just like, ah, we built this brick by brick. Like, we this generation, y'all wouldn't be here without us. We took the suffering so y'all could enjoy freely and openly.

SPEAKER_00:

Bro, it was used to be like you damn near had to fight because you told somebody you liked something. Shit was crazy, bro. It's good to see it change. How do you feel about that episode though? Like that episode, like with Maki slaughtering everybody. Bro.

SPEAKER_01:

Heavy. Because seeing it hits different to reading it. Like when I read it, I was like, oh, this is heavy. But just being able to visually see it, man. Oh my gosh. You're like, bro, Maki's the truth. Toji region.

SPEAKER_00:

Bro, it's crazy to see. It's good to see like female characters that aren't like anything weird. There are like pushing a true narrative. You know, females need that in that space because, you know, all the fan service and all the weird shit in the genre. But that shit like that anime, bro. Chris, you see that uh Moppa, they did a deal with Netflix. So that's big, bro. Yeah, they did a deal with Netflix, bro.

SPEAKER_01:

Hey. Yeah. I'm about my Netflix animes, man. I'm not gonna lie. They got they got they got sleepers on there. Like Yeah, Castlevania, Seven Deadly Sins. Listen, we come on now.

SPEAKER_00:

They even had Dios Meals. They had like a couple little sleeper animes, Blood of Zeus. Like, I've been peeping uh facts. Blood of Zeus was hard. Double Man Cry Bay is hard. They just put out this running movie on there. I have to watch it, but I I have to like I have to like get into a sports anime. Like Hajimango Ippo is like the first sports anime I was into. So like if it doesn't start off like that, it's hard for me to get in there.

SPEAKER_01:

But I still have to break into that like kind of sports anime. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00:

Hajemangle Ippo was my first one. I was like, alright. Yeah. How do you feel about One Piece and his ongoing, you know, its legacy, how peak it is right now, how relevant it is to the world times we are right now. It's crazy, bro. The One Piece is real, bro.

SPEAKER_01:

I got a hot take, man. Like, and I know a lot of people, I like a lot of people to argument when it comes to One Piece that, you know, it's too long, there's too many episodes. But in all honesty, I genuinely think when it's all said and done, and this is coming, this is coming from a Dragon Ball fan, y'all, someone who grew up heavily on Dragon Ball, One Piece will go down as the greatest end of all because I I think it's the closest thing we have to that like drawn out Marvel kind of DC, like draw, like super drawn-out arcs, like people coming back, plot lines being plucked back, where you you forgot about this, reminding you about that. And it's I yo, it's it's peak, man, and it's it's peak, and I think it's absolutely necessary for the culture because One Piece has been part of that big been part of different big threes in multiple generations of anime. So I think that longevity alone, you gotta get like you have to give them their flowers for that, for staying relevant throughout the test of time. Because we've seen some anime come in and go, but One Piece has been has been a common denominator throughout the years, bro. One Piece came out, I was in middle school. I'm a grown man now.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm still watching One Piece, bro. I I don't know if I'm gonna be an adult until One Piece ends. That's what I'm saying. Like, I don't know where it's gonna happen, but we're gonna be waiting for it. Oda, gota. How do you feel about fucking Fire Force, bro? It's fire, like it's fire, man.

SPEAKER_01:

And it added it added a whole nother layer of context to Firefox when I found out that it's the same universe is so even. Yeah. So I was like, oh wow, like it's it like what I love a lot of these new gen animes, bro, is that like they're they're really pushing, well, they're really just pushing what we don't adding different concepts. Like I love, I love when series kind of make that jump to to add different concepts like like time travel or or parallel realities or different universes and stuff like that. One of my favorite, I think my favorite character far in Fire Forest is Arthur Just because like I think it's so funny that he's kind of like the scary cat, but he's low-key, like the cold character, bro. Like he focuses his heat into his sword, which makes it electricity, and he's kind of like a knight. But he's always the first one to be like, I really don't want to fight. But if it gets down to it, I will get Mixy.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I I really fuck with Fire Forest. I like Arthur. Arthur, his fire, like his technique and all his abilities are like pretty cool. I I really like it. Kind of reminds me of Arthur from Seven Deadly Sins and then the authorion myth itself. So, and then uh what is that shit called? Fait. So uh Excalibur, that that that character, it was really crazy to see all that. Because you know, anime takes from each other. And with Fire Force with a guy from uh Soul Eater on there, I was there from the get go.

SPEAKER_03:

That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01:

Like our generation there from the beginning. Like Soul Eater's a classic. Classic.

SPEAKER_00:

People don't understand that. I had to go and finish the fucking manga because the anime stopped.

SPEAKER_01:

I was like, what happens? Oh man. Those are the those are the rough times when it's like an anime just disappears on you and you're like, yo, what happened? And then you gotta scour it before manga plus and shonen and shonen jump and all that type of stuff. Before we were blessed with these apps to watch manga freely or to read manga freely, you really had to scour the ends of the internet and fight pop-ups just to get more source material. Just to get that one more chapter, bro. Shit was ridiculous. Sometimes they were missing pages and all this, that, and the third, or the translation was off.

SPEAKER_00:

Translation was trash, bro. I hate yo, I used to be pissed when I get a bad translation. I think something happened and it didn't happen. Remember they was getting everybody with like uh Super Saiyan 5? Remember that?

SPEAKER_01:

Exactly, bro. Those were good times on the internet because you couldn't, you didn't know if it was real or not, because there was just an absence of source material. So you're like, you had to kind of take it for what it was.

SPEAKER_00:

And that's when the internet was more organic. Now with AI, bro, it's just they're just spamming that shit. You know that like internet, like people on the internet right now, it's only 38% that's humans. The rest is all AI.

unknown:

All AI, man.

SPEAKER_00:

Crazy. It's crazy. But how do you feel about uh Dragon Ball Super coming out? You know, they're coming back out with the Moro act. We're coming out with some more peak. That's from all that, you know.

SPEAKER_01:

Dragon Ball is my main course. And here's the thing. It's like, here's the thing. With all the I have love for all the gen animes. Like, I genuinely I love this anime boom that we're living in. That it's abundance of animes, different types, different protagonists. But you give me new Dragon Ball content, brother, I'm jumping at it every time. And the moral are guess real. Like, I always here's the thing, I understand the critique of Dragon Ball, especially Dragon Ball Super in the times that they're in, that they're they're dead, they're gods, they have entered the realm of gods. But Moro pushes the limits. He genuinely feels like an OG Dragon Ball villain to where it's like he gives you that that kind of chill in your chest. It's like, are they really gonna win? Like ever like the OG Dragon Ball villains really gave you that like that feeling of urgency. Like, are they really are they really gonna win? Like, you know they're strong, but are they really gonna win? And especially with all the new concepts, bro, we're gonna get we're gonna see Matter Ultra Instant War, we're gonna see Ultra Ego, we're gonna, oh man, we're gonna see Moros how how hacks more magic is in like how he eats planets and like feeds on their life force and all that type of stuff. The Galactic Patrol gets involved in I forget the name of that one Galactic Patrol agent and how he's kind of like an angel. Yeah, like the whole undercover angel kind of as a galactic patrol. Ooh, bro, I can't wait. I can't wait. And and that trailer with that animation, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Just throw the budget at it. I'm not I'm not here for plot with DB's DBS, bro. I'm here for the fucking fights, bro. I don't care. I don't know why people be arguing with me about that shit, bro. Dragon Ball Z started from a fight, it's gonna end in a fight, bro. It's gonna end in a fight. Bro, I'm super excited for uh Dragon Ball Super. I'm super excited for the Moral arc. I really like Morals powers. It's a real threat. We go back to Namek, we going back to the trenches where we we done did this. We're going back to the trenches, bro. That's like CJ going back to the block and San Andreas, bro. He's going back. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01:

And it's the same thing all in about One Piece that regardless of your hate or love for Dragon Ball, throughout generations, Dragon Ball has been there. Old Gen, Dragon Ball was there. The new Dragon Ball is still here, and Dragon Ball is not going anywhere anytime soon. And I think a lot of new gen anime watchers underestimate the cultural impact Dragon Ball really had on just the world and just pop culture, bro.

SPEAKER_00:

Bro, without DBZ, uh well, Dragon Ball itself, we wouldn't have any of the shones we have now. They all draw from him. All of them. Yeah. There was no power systems or power sets or any of that shit before Dragon Ball Z. If I'm wrong, let me know. But how do you feel about Demon Slayer, bro? People critique its plot, but just like Dragon Ball Z, I'm here for the fights, man. I don't get it. This shit looks good.

SPEAKER_03:

This shit looks good.

SPEAKER_01:

It does look good. And if the audience can't tell, obviously Natheer and I are obvious, we're hardcore. We read and we watch. So do I love Demon Slayer and how Demon Slayer came in hot. I'm not gonna lie. They came in hot with that animation. I said, bro, bro, I thought I was about to watch the best anime I ever seen in my life. I've ever seen in my life. I was like, can they maintain this vibe that they've introduced me to in terms of animation? And and here's the thing the story wasn't like overlay complicated, but I was like, I can get into this whole, you know, cinema, demon slam, you know, journeyman vibe. And I'm for it. I'm here for it. The story is not really given for me, I'll be honest, the way it ended in the manga, but I will enjoy every episode because my son Tanjiro be facing the craziest adversity that I've seen an older brother face.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, Tanjiro's a great character. The plot wasn't the strongest thing ever, but I do like the animation. And it's selling. That shit's selling like hot kicks, bro. You know, who am I to hate? You know?

SPEAKER_01:

Exactly. Who am I who am I to hate? Because Demon Slayer definitely. I will happily turn on every every episode. I have I have my my reservations about it, but best believe, yeah, they are they are crazy. They know how to make some episodes. They know how to animate some episodes.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, their animation is on point. Talking about story and animation, I feel like My Hero Academia kept its story and its animation both peak. I think people dipped out on My Hero because they couldn't keep up. I'm telling you, My Hero is one of the best animes I watch. The only thing I didn't like is that he lost his powers. But that's that's me. I think he should have got I think All Might should have died and he became a vestige, and then something like that happens, he gets the quirk back, you know, something like that. But hey, I'm not in there. I'm not writing the shit, right? So Right, right.

SPEAKER_01:

I kind of had the same reservation you did because I was thinking like at the end of the series, I I agree, I agree. I think All Might definitely should have definitely should have died. And I definitely was kind of gonna be like a little, it was gonna be like an avatar stick kind of thing. It's like I can talk to the past to the past users and you can kind of guide me through life type of thing. Yo, I j I really do like my hero academia. I think they were I think they were very much eminent characters. At one point, I'm like, hold on, who's this and who's this and who's that? Like we were the new characters were kind of just spawning when when everything, when the when society kind of just like Yeah, when the war arc went down. Yeah, they were just breaking people out. Yeah, when All for One busted out of jail, kinda like, okay, we're inch every page had a new character. It was crazy.

SPEAKER_00:

Horikoshi, he could have like fleshed out the world. Like, I don't know why Japan was I I get it because it's a Japanese story, but like there should have been multiple continents with multiple top ten heroes and more structure and shit like that. Because I think Horikoshi just wanted to tell his story and this story and be done with it. There's so many avenues for this shit to keep going. That's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, honestly, and I think I like how layered that kind of war arc was because it's like you got the family problems of uh of Shoto and his family, and like, you know, the the fire quirk, the hellfire, the ice, how he wants to kind of perfectly genetically blend, like and have a prodigy that had to be a very good thing. Yeah, the quirk marriages. Yeah, you know, and I do kind of like how they kind of went deeper about like the science behind quirks and how it really goes. I think Midoria is a very I think he's one of like those leading new gen kind of characters. It's like he didn't start off broken, like he was very much a nerd to the game. He was like, I do like I love heroes for the for the love of the game. Like I love everything they stand for. By the time he actually got his power, it was by the time he was like, hey man, like I study, I live, I breathe this stuff.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I I think Izuku is one of those new gin characters. He's not a Goku or a Naruto where he's like projecting his personality, it's more so his actions and his endearment and his passion towards what he's doing. I just wish like he should have he should have been top hero without like losing his powers, bro. I think he should have just got some type of remnants. And and then like we still have Erie. Erie is still alive, am I right? So like in five years and ten years, that I don't know. I'd just say Hiroko, she should take a break and then come back and continue. Because he can. There's room there. How do you feel about Chainsaw Man and the new movie you put out?

SPEAKER_01:

Yo, that's another one where we gotta talk about animation movies. Chainsaw Man, they they also came in hot. That was one I kind of with everything coming back, I kind of fell off a little bit. But once I heard that movie announcement, I was like, okay. I think y'all are y'all y'all are really y'all are reeling me back in. Talk to me. I want to see what's going on.

SPEAKER_00:

I want to see what's going on. I feel like it's uh that chainsaw man is like JJK, but like people die. You know? Yeah. People die in JJK, but like people die in chainsaw, man. Chainsaw, man. People are dying, bro. Like it does it. A lot of bystands to get attached to anybody. No, there's no six-size saving shit either. Everybody's very, very killable in chainsaw, man. Fucking hell. How you feel about solo leveling, man? It's becoming mainstream, and like those web novels and those web stories are starting to get that mass appeal. And this is like they already got like a couple of clones already out that's similar. But it's uh I've been it's getting wild.

SPEAKER_01:

Bro, solo leveling is definitely one of my top favorite new animes that came out, because yo. When I saw that first episode and I saw that statue, dude a smile, I was like, Yeah, this anime is gonna be top tier. That was one of the signs where I was like, yeah, this is gonna be a top tier anime watch. And just seeing my boy Jinwoo go through the motions and just get so cold. I'm sorry, man. Like, he's cold, like he's cold.

SPEAKER_00:

Bro, and he's aura farming. And he's gonna put his sword down. He put his sword down. Yeah, he's gonna put his sword down. You're gonna see the fit.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. You gotta see. You gotta see my fit. Like, do you see my fit though? Do you see what I'm saying? Anytime he pulls out, he's like, he's like, do you see my fit? Like, I I know I'm I know I'm an S-rank hunter, but do you see my fit though?

SPEAKER_00:

I'm just here to flex. Then save me. You know, I will flex you on you and then save you, bro. How are you feeling about RDC One World, bro? I uh RDC World 1, their impact on anime, their impact on the culture. I mean, their dream con. I I had one of my co-hosts is he went out there. I need to go out there to one, but like, man, those guys made anime mainstream for the community, for the culture. Not just our culture, but every culture.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. I honestly, bro, I love tapping into their videos and their live streams because I really think they're literally the voice of just like black kids, like especially for black culture that just liked anime but couldn't like it out loud the time. And they they're kind of just they're like the voices for that. And I think it's so dope, like all the all the uh short. That they do, like their comedy, even outside anime. Like they just really seem like cool dudes. Like they really seem like big bros. Tap into their stream. They're really big bros. Like I tap into their uh debates all the time on YouTube about like who got like who got more aura. One of the ones who had more aura, it was between Mina Tony Taki. And people were bringing up some good points. Like I really like because they kind of just like how you would debate with your friends and the homies like in college. Like, yo, if this person from if this character from this anime fought, and this character from this anime fought, like, who do you really think would be on their ones and twos? And that I really like the format for all their videos, bro. It's just it just seems like the vibes and free flow. So shouts out to them, man. Because I think they really they made it cool, bro. Especially, especially as we're getting older, bro. Like, they're just they're the voices.

SPEAKER_00:

They're definitely the voices of the culture. They're synonymous. They were doing stuff with Kendrick Lamar. They were doing stuff with J. Cole. They have big, big connects within the culture, big, big connects in streaming and all these other pots and pans. It's crazy to see them. I want them to get a budget. I want them to get some bread from these Hollywood people or raids to print themselves. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Get some sponsors. Give them a show, bro.

SPEAKER_00:

Give them a show. Man, because I I'm waiting for their anime, bro. Because I think they're not just like a YouTube crew. They're almost like an actor's troop where everybody's creative and working in junction to create a giant performance piece, which is their skits and everything like that. That stuff is many worlds, man. That stuff could be on HBO Max.

SPEAKER_01:

That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01:

But I I think those boys deserve it all. 100%. And I love seeing like groups of creative, especially like, especially people of color who are groups creative like that, bro. Because it's like you you already know when it comes to us, we gotta work twice as hard just just to make up that 1% of a gap. So the fact that the fact that they're all not only they're all cool with each other, they're all people of color, they all are into they're all they've been into anime culture, they understand what it means to like produce and anime stuff, bro. I I really can't wait to see like what that produces, man. Because I think I think it's gonna be huge, man, to have kind of just like an in-house anime. It's gonna it's it's like it's like watching your big bro on T you're like, yo, what big bro gonna drop this week? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it it's it's great to see. I really hope they get into like you know, collabs with Marvel or DC and all these other places where he they're talking about it. Like they have reels and memes about certain characters from the MCU in the DCU, all talking about this stuff, and it's going viral. So they might as well work with these kids, man. Well, not these kids, but with these guys. You know, the segue though, how are you feeling about Hell's Paradise, bro? I I'm not gonna lie, bro, I slept on this one. I did not watch it at all when it was popular.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm telling you, I was one of the ones I hear it. And that was one of the ones where I was on Crunchyroll. I remember I was on Crunchyroll, and you know Huntry Roll has like that explore kind of recommended kind of kind of tab going on. Bro, like thumbnails will get me every time. And I saw like the thumbnail for Hell's Pass. I'm like, hold on. I'm like, I saw the character with white hair. Yep. Let's see what that first episode, let's see what that first episode is talking about. Because everyone who, if you everyone who watches anime knows when there's a character that has white hair, you know, you know it's serious.

SPEAKER_00:

I've never seen a weak white-haired character, bro. Jariah, cold, Kashi, cold, kill you, cold. Joe, the cold, one of the coldest. One of the coldest. And you watch it, cold.

SPEAKER_03:

That's what I'm saying. Like, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01:

So I saw that, I tapped into the first episode, I was hooked, and I was like, yeah, this is. I think that I feel like it's it's Demon Slayer's older brother, honestly. Because I think the animation crispy, yeah, more mature story, animation is crispy, it's a darker, it's a much darker tone. Yeah, uh, true. I know more of that. But I've actually been trying to scour the internet if there's a manga.

SPEAKER_02:

This should be a manga. Has to be.

SPEAKER_00:

But with Hell's Paradise, uh I you know what I've really been getting into is Kaju number eight. I actually like Kaju number eight. Kaju number eight is really hard. I didn't, I was sleeping on it. I was sleeping on I woke up. That shit is fire, bro. Who who would have thought it, bro? And he started as a bum.

SPEAKER_01:

Bro, you know what's crazy? That one of my homies at work, he actually suggested the manga to me. He's like, yo, yo, read this kaiju number eight. And I think it was only like 50, it was only like 50 chapters at the time. So it was like well before the even came out. And I'm I am running through these chapters like no tomorrow. Because it was a week, it's a a weekly, I'm pretty sure. Yeah. It's a a weekly manga. So I am, dude, I am gutting these chapters. And I'm like, dog, this is this is serious. And here's the thing, I'm I'm on the internet, I'm like, yo, when's kaiju number eight gonna get an anime? When is it gonna get an anime? Bro, so the manga's not eating I don't think it's it's I think like they're in the final arc right now. So like we're we're near the end, but dog, this whole time that I've been reading, the anime has been stacking and stacking and stacking it, and I can't wait to like truly tap in.

SPEAKER_00:

Bro, was that season two now? I'm waiting for like the next episode. I don't know when the next shit's gonna drop, bro. But like I'm liking, and as I get older, I need like some real stakes. Like, I can't go on a childish adventure anymore. I can't wait. Yeah, that's true. Like, I need darker tones. People gotta die. Like, I need violence. Yeah, something has to happen like real quick. Yeah. That's why I like Cyberpunk. That shit's coming back out with another season, too. Talking about Netflix animes. Cyberpunk's coming out with another season. I don't know if we watched the first season, bro. That's just I do I do need to tap in. I bought merch. I bought merch. That's how good it was. Okay. I don't, I'm not gonna spin my bread, bro. I I was like, bro, this is too good. And they got another season coming. But I bought merch. I was like, oh shit, they gotta be using my pockets. Wow. Right. Yeah, man. Uh I let's get into anime production talk. You know, like there's a lot to be said. You can have Jujitsu Kaisen, or you can have One Punch Man. It can get real, real tricky. Yeah, the fall-off kick. If the animation, if the animation doesn't keep up with the story, we don't want you to see the story.

SPEAKER_01:

Honestly, and I don't mind waiting longer, because it's like nowadays, bro, there's so much anime to watch that it's like take as long as you need to make sure it's the the final product is crisp. Because I can wat I can find other things to watch in the meantime. And I'm gonna be am I gonna be like anxiously waiting for? Of course, but I I don't want you to I don't want these anime production companies to put out the incomplete, because I know after once I became a manga reader, I understood like the blood, sweat, and tears that really goes into anime. Because these pages, man, what it takes to draw these these manga pages, oh man, these artists going through hell, bro. They don't be in their families.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. No, they are overworked like shit, bro. That whole every division, I mean, Hollywood to Japan, bro, it's insane what they do to the creatives on the production side. I had a lot of friends when I was out in LA that were telling me that shit, bro. They're like, bro, they're trying to squeeze us as much as possible and they need us the most. I'm talking like VBX guys who are doing movies or like special effects and shit. Like half these movies nowadays, if they're an action scene, it's all special effects. It's all AI. They gotta pay these guys, and they don't want to. They overwork the fuck out of them, bro. It's crazy. And in the Japanese culture, I mean, we've seen, you know, the writer from Hunter X Hunter have to go to the hospital because he's trying to keep up. He's trying to do this and that.

SPEAKER_01:

It's crazy. Dude, dude, it's wild, man. And they're doing this all for the love of the game. They're just like, my guy's content out. I gotta get this content out.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, they don't even get paid as like, you know, that like my gakas don't get paid that much until they, you know, sell out. Like, until they get enough money off of their uh reception for their anime. Until then, they just are nobody's bro. This shit's crazy.

SPEAKER_01:

But yeah, like I think definitely thank all these all these artists, man, because man, without them, I don't what would I be doing on my spare time, man? Like, I'm thinking about all the all the content that I'm devouring, all the all the manga, all the anime that I'm devouring. I'm like, dude, it's thanks to y'all, man.

SPEAKER_00:

Like beasting, bro. Anime definitely helps, you know, people, like I don't know, like mental health, mental fortitude, strength, characters, like I people tell me all this stuff, I'm like, as far as like my like at my job, like we go through objections all the time, like with customers and shit. Like Rock Lee didn't give up. Why would I give up? You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

No legs, bro.

SPEAKER_00:

Bro was in a wheelchair. You know? Still had the spirit. My guy pulled up to my pulled up to Martyr. He's like, yo, what's up? What about me though? What's some nunchucks, bro? What's some nunchucks? He said, What about me though? I got a story too. I know this, I know the show is called Naruto, but I got a story too. I got something to say. Now, just to have everything in closing, bro, new gen versus old gen, there has been a constant comparison, and I think there is no comparison because when you know when Dragon Ball's coming out, the amount of uh negativity amongst people who create something was not very high. Like you gotta think about it. Like you were able to create things and no one can talk shit about it. Not the whole world. Not the entire fucking district or everybody you know about. Like, if you create something nowadays, it's out. And I think the biggest thing with the new gen is that if they have a plot line that's not good, if they have a story that's trash, but it got animated, guess what? We're all gonna We're all gonna dunk on it online. We're gonna make fun of the industry that put it out, we're gonna make fun of the animators that did it, they're gonna get bad reputations. I think the biggest difference between the old gen and the new gen is response. I do you think Dragon Ball Z could be made from scratch, right now? Like if a a Dragon uh like a Goku concept came out and it wasn't like up to par, they would start shitting on it, bro.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh yeah, I don't think if Dragon Ball came out nowadays, the legacy would be completely different technically. When Dragon Ball first came out, dude, like again, like we didn't we didn't have Twitter, we didn't have Instagram, you couldn't just like voice your opinion or like or literally at the creators of an anime or a manga and be like, you got to do better and all this, that in the third. Like it that just wasn't around. Whatever you got was what you got, and you just had to be happy with it, whether you liked it or not. If you didn't like it, you didn't watch it. If you liked it, you just like, oh man, when does this come out again? Yeah, bro. And we saw and and we saw that with GT. Like GT came out at a at a time when there was no Dragon Ball whatsoever, and everyone ever was asking the same question, why is Goku a kid again? But at the same time, there was no Dragon Ball, so it was just like, hey, he may be a kid again, but I'm still gonna watch it. Because Goku's back.

SPEAKER_00:

Right. I still like Dragon Ball GT, bro. He should have kept the uh Super Saiyan 4 from that. He should have kept some concepts up from that. It was hard. You see Goku go from a kid to adult and he gets serious and he starts really trying to kill people. Remember when he used to do that? Like when he used to go Super Saiyan 4, he's like, I don't know why, but when I make this transformation, like, I can't control my digit.

SPEAKER_01:

You know what I mean? His voice got deeper. He got serious. It was like, oh, hold on, bro.

SPEAKER_00:

Come in, I was red, bro. He was trying to hug down, bro.

SPEAKER_01:

And the tail again. We like, hold on. Oh man. Got a little like a saying.

SPEAKER_00:

Primal. Real primal, bro. Hey, you should watch that show primal. That's another animated show that's really good. It's from the dude that made Samurai Jack. Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

I've heard enough. Yep.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep.

SPEAKER_01:

On that. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Back to that. This has been another episode of the Life and Times anime podcast. Thank you again, Carlos, for hopping on. Anything, you know, last words, anything to say to the people?

SPEAKER_01:

And listen, more episodes coming out this year, more projects. Shout out to my men, Nateer for inviting me onto this segment. I absolutely love this. The people need it. The culture needs it. And, you know, thanks to everyone who tunes in.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, thanks for everybody. It's in LA.